A literate president

Here is a conversation between an NYT book review writer and (now ex-)President Obama.  It is so shocking to see such an erudite, intelligent, thinking man as President, and compare him to the new President.  I can't imagine Trump getting through an entire book, much less having a coherent, calm conversation about any subject.  I certainly don't think he gets nuance, writing style, universal themes, challenges to his own world view.  Obama, on the other hand, speaks as a book lover and a writer, and picks up on and delights in all the subtleties, the slow contemplation, offered by books of all kinds.